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Message: [QUOTE="HoustonCuse, post: 2049484, member: 87"] You guys are proving my point. We have made two Final Fours in the last 5 years and our fans are falling all over themselves to figure out reasons why those aren't valid, or were flukes, or whatever. I'm pointing out that MSU fans can and probably are doing the same things. And yes MSU is in a drought of FF's by Izzo standards. He showed up in 1995 and then between 1999 and 2010, they went to 6 final fours - a rate of greater than 50% of the time. They have only been to 1 final four since then (and assuming they don't do it this year), that is a rate of 17%. A monumental drop off by anyone's measure. And I am not talking about anyone, I am talking about their fans that no doubt have plenty of reason to claim they are seeing their basketball world crumbling down around them. [/QUOTE]