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Message: [QUOTE="billsin01, post: 1532953, member: 837"] Posted this exact thought (at least no. 2) last week. I think $6M is absolute bottom-barrel, low-end for even considering a change. In fact, as much as I enjoy the rest of the post, it could have ended here. Otherwise you just start over for the sake of starting over. Yes, you could hit a home run, but chances are you won't, in which case you try and figure out what you can do with this staff until your hand is forced. The 'who would want to come to syracuse' stuff is more legit than you think, IMO. If you have no ties to upstate NY you likely think it's a completely miserable place to live/work (even if you're from CNY, you may think this. Even if you live in CNY ...). That's not to say it's true, but it's out there. You also have to have MAJOR doubts about the university's commitment to big-time football. Yes, it's improved, but let's be real -- if you're looking at history there are some red flags. I interviewed with a company for a sales job -- good $$$, smaller territory, great product but they had had some financial woes a couple years back. They swore up and down they were stronger than ever. Turned down the job, they filed for bankruptcy last week. Sometimes doubts are well-founded despite appearances to the contrary. Then there are the other challenges: lackluster attendance, mundane game-day atmosphere, aging dome, location relative to recruiting ... Bottom line, there are major challenges to taking this job. Can you build a winner here? Absolutely, but to suggest it's without huge hurdles is ridiculous. If you're a hot HC candidate, SU is going to have to pay you enough to overcome those issues. That's why $2.5M for a head coach is the absolute floor, IMO. I dream of a coach who does well enough to ditch us for USC. I'd give my right arm for that. This whole notion that we are a stepping stone is, well, true. That's what we are to a degree and people need to get over it. It's what the vast majority of programs are. The key is finding the right guy to guide you for a while until he leaves. I'm going to throw a name out that people will hate but I can't help but wonder about. Randy Edsall. Yes, he's an a-hole. Of course, all that really makes him is a football coach. Yes, he was unceremoniously dumped by UMD and he doesn't make many friends ... anywhere. But if you look at the dude's resume: [LIST] [*]Coached under Mac in what was obviously the undisputed golden era of this program. [*]Moves to BC for it's golden era under coughlin [*]Moves to Jax and is a big part of their initial success [*]Short but successful tenure at GT as DC [*]Moves to UConn and, IMO, basically plays miracle worker. Program with zero history, zero facilities and zero recruiting advantages -- yet they somehow become marginally relevant, going 69-53 and going to five bowls in his final 9 seasons. Not only that, they actually managed to land at least as much talent as SU in that span despite major disadvantages. [*]Moves to MD and it ends horribly. But if you look closer -- he jettisoned a bunch of players in year 1 and it tanked the season, though that practice is not entirely rare. He was pretty bad in Year 2 as well, though it probably has a lot to do with the overhaul. By year 3 they are respectable and make a bowl. Year 4 they have to move to the big 1o, horrible spot for UMD, but they still improve and make a bowl again. Then he gets canned this year after a 2-4 start, but their losses are to Bowling Green (6-2, 86 unanswered points, only losses to Tenn. and a really solid Memphis team by an FG. Beat purdue on the road), WVU (yes, four losses in a row but three on the road vs. top 15 teams and another to a top 25 Okie st. team), Michigan and Ohio State. Since he was dispatched, they've lost to Ped St. (7-2), and no. 10 Iowa. And, for good measure, they knock off USF by 18 (we lost to them, if I recall correctly). I mean, honestly, do we beat anyone other than Richmond on their schedule? [/LIST] Anyway, I know people will hate that call, but I think the job Edsall did at UConn was unreal [/QUOTE]

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