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Message: [QUOTE="Consigliere, post: 4075223, member: 559"] Agreed, but it’s the annoying unforced turnovers that look to be almost careless that have to stop. Happened against Auburn and again last night and got him pulled both times. The intangible Joe brings to the court is his fire. He is the only player in the rotation who exhibits the passion and willingness to step on the throat of his opponent and implores his teammates and the crowd to join in. Almost seems we are “too nice” without that. [/QUOTE]