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Message: [QUOTE="Millhouse, post: 1207742, member: 78"] You wanted to talk about long coaching records, I just went back to when he started as an offensive coordinator. You want to leave out the worst years and pretend like that is the long track record your posts are jumbled messes which obscures that the guy isn't that good. At WMU he averages 49th in total offense Not at WMU he averages 86th Overall average of 70th I think 86th qualifies as lousy. 70th when a bunch of it comes in the MAC qualifies too. He's probably better than Lester which is why we shouldn't hire either of them. Given a choice, I say go with Lester because at least there's some upside even if he's probably worse. What are we expecting to get from a 60 year old guy who has had so many chances? [/QUOTE]