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Message: [QUOTE="bigmike, post: 4160752, member: 3928"] Good points here. Also want to see the Jessie and Joe show against a team with a formidable center. Last couple were not formidable. Funny story - when my son was I think 9-10 years old I coached a CYO team. We had 2 kids who were really good,. Advanced for their ages. We taught them to run the pick and roll, and they could do it whenever we needed a basket. One game was back and forth most of the first half and we were running it pretty often. At a time out, one of the boys asked, when are we going to stop running the pick and roll? My answer was - as soon as they figure out how to stop it. [/QUOTE]