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Message: [QUOTE="WoadBlue, post: 1592870, member: 1145"] If he had been 43 in 1967, he truthfully could have said that what for him and his friends most defined ND football was not playing in bowls, and that ND would never play in bowls - that ND would rather remain unique even if that meant giving up the chance to play for a national title. ND fans felt that way right until ND decided to play Texas in the Cotton Bowl. By that 2nd Cotton Bowl, when ND upset the Longhorns and kept them from winning the national title, virtually no ND fans talked about how wrong it was to lose the great tradition of refusing to play in bowls. The exact thing will happen when ND goes full member in ACC football. [/QUOTE]