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Message: [QUOTE="DoctahLexus, post: 5766081, member: 6798"] I really do not think some undisciplined moments are a sign that we have some next level kind of leadership problem. People zoom in on our sloppy moments and don't step back and realize that every team we play has guys making the exact same type of mistakes and undisciplined plays at a similar or higher rate than us. I am a broken record with this line, but it is hard as hell to play clean lacrosse for 4 quarters, and people here act like every other team has figured it out. If we had the amount of turnovers we had Saturday every game of the season, we would be a top 10 team in fewest turnovers per game. When one guy on our team flubs a pass, here it is an indictment of all our older leadership/staff and their mentality. Other teams do it and it is just some kind of fluke not worth reading into. The O had a couple crucial turnovers in the second half that put a tired defense on the ropes. Yes those were frustrating as hell, yes you cannot afford that in the playoffs, but the main problem was still an atrocious day on the defensive end against a team that has struggled all season to put the ball in the cage. ND has only gone above 11 goals twice all year against non-scrubs and we were lucky they did not drop 20! That is insanely bad D from us compared to peer programs! We get nowhere without a 180 turnaround on that end in the upcoming games. Meanwhile UVA at home is the only other offense to put up 11 goals on this team all year! UNC and Duke just put up 11 goals on their D combined! I do not know how people watch our guys get cooked off the dodge left and right/slide all over the place and the chatter here is almost entirely about leadership coaching and discipline, with focus if anything on the other end of the field. Our lacking depth of athleticism at D, ssdm, and wing play is larger than any leadership issue IMO. [/QUOTE]

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