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Message: [QUOTE="IthacaMatt, post: 5271904, member: 405"] This is missing the boat. Teams with less talent than us are competent. They can play defense and they can run offensive sets that create open shots. Yes, better players are required to win at elite levels, but we are a Quad 4 team right now. That's who we are competitive with. There are 100 college coaches who are better at X's and O's than Red, without question. He recruits well so far, but how long is that going to last if he can't coach at the level of LeMoyne, Colgate and Cornell, where we barely squeaked by on talent, not coaching. [/QUOTE]