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Message: [QUOTE="Dick_in_MI, post: 5572531, member: 225"] The thing that always bothered me as a former exec was that Fran jumped two levels to his current job. In a perfect world, he would have then surrounded himself with experienced coordinators. But he didn't. He got two guys who were also were also basically newbies. Robinson had a brief stint at A&M, but very brief. So Fran made a rookie mistake that resulted with everybody learning on the job. Nixon has been up and down but our D has been uniformly poor under Fran. Perhaps JW's metrics are very high level, i.e. a bowl game and I don't care how you get there. Or perhaps they are multiple metrics and with some nuance. Either way, I think the conversation has to be had about how poorly we have performed on defense the past two years and Fran's plans to rectify that. And if JW thinks those plans are too vague or too general or merely not firm enough, a more definitive expectation has to be made regarding staff. [/QUOTE]