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Message: [QUOTE="GFTakedown, post: 1123334, member: 64"] Rich Rod was run out of Ann Arbor after 3 years because he couldn't win and his defense was terrible. Hoke had Rich Rod's recruits his 1st year (11-2) and won a BCS game (VT). Since then his record is 8-5 and 7-6 with bowl losses to South Carolina and Kansas State. His losses have come from quality teams MSU (2011, 2013), Iowa (2011, 2013), Alabama (2012), Notre Dame (2012, 2014), Nebraska (2012, 2013), tOSU (2012, 2013), South Carolina (2012), Penn State (2013), and Kansas State (2013). Their 2014 schedule will give them 8 expected wins, 1 unknown (PSU), and 3 expected losses (ND, MSU, and tOSU). Carr was pushed to retire because he couldn't win the big games. Could this be the fate of his protege? [/QUOTE]