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Message: [QUOTE="WickedOrange, post: 1223139, member: 915"] People have very short memories (myself included), 2005 was the first time the ACC had its title game. 2014 One team with 0 or one loss. 2013 One team with 0 or one loss. 2012 No zero or one loss teams in final... (6-6 GT makes the final) 2010 No zero or one loss teams in final 2009 No zero or one loss teams in final 2008 No zero, one or two loss teams in final 2007 No zero or one loss teams in final 2006 No zero or one loss teams in final 2005 One team with zero or one loss... (a 7-4 FSU wins) THAT is why Swofford wants an 8 team playoff.. IMO. History suggests an 11-1 ND will have its shots at the "ACC's spot". 7 out of 9 years, most likely would have seen an 11-1 ND taken before the ACC Champ. I wonder if the Pac 10 is similar. [/QUOTE]