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[QUOTE="TerryD, post: 1224170, member: 3399"] I see ND being independent with a 5 game scheduling agreement with the ACC, because that is all it is. ND played 3 Big Ten teams every year for several decades. That didn't make them a conference member. The same with the PAC 12. ND played three of their schools this season. The Big Ten always mandated that their ND games be played in September. That didn't make ND a Big Ten member. If ND contracted three games per year each with the Big Ten and PAC 12 to go along with the ACC deal, it would still be independent and have a unique status different than any member of a football conference in the country. Is it the total, unfettered independence of the past, no. But it is still not totally tied down, burdened or beholden to a football conference. ND is not in the ACC for football. Which division is it in? What are its chances of winning the ACC championship game next year? As Neil noted, there are no ACC logos on its field or uniforms. As Sabach noted, ND still controls 7 games a year to play whomever (and sometimes wherever) it wants. If the ACC voted on certain changes or requirements for its football programs, they would have no binding effect on ND. Bottom line is that ND's status is different than conference teams. I hope and believe it will stay that way. I also agree with Sabach in that ND will not give up independence unless it is mandated that only conference champs are legally eligible for the playoffs. [/QUOTE]
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