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Message: [QUOTE="omniorange, post: 1224180, member: 636"] Whether it's a divisional set-up or should the ACC get the legislation passed that they want in a 3+5+5 model, the conference sets our 8 opponents, just like they do ND's 5. This imagined freedom from conference restraint you laud as "independence" basically amounts to 3 games more ND gets to schedule than SU doesn't and you get to keep your NY6 Day Bowl monies. That's it. And that, my friend, is not independence in any definition of the word. Terry, I like you as a poster, although we often disagree. I give full credit to the brand power of ND which enabled it to negotiate that slight difference above. But I won't partake of this insanity of referring to the Irish as being independent for football, because it only adds to the delusion that they are when they no longer schedule all football games and decide who they will play and negotiate individually with those teams rather than through a conference. Cheers, Neil [/QUOTE]