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Message: [QUOTE="TerryD, post: 1224233, member: 3399"] Fighting and giving ground doesn't mean you quit fighting. At some point you might just say this far but no further. Or, you go down fighting rather than an abject surrender. I lost a lot of interest in ND basketball when it joined the Big East in 1995. I am an anti-conference guy, all conferences. I just don't like them and liked it better when many programs were independent. I liked it much better when ND basketball was independent. I was a much bigger ND basketball fan in the Sixties to mid-Nineties than I am today. In any event, ND is not a football conference member, playoff implications or not. I am glad of that. If ND joins the ACC for football, and becomes just like everyone else, my interest will likely dimish there too. Anyway, I have tried to give the ND perspective but will stop here. [/QUOTE]