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[QUOTE="Alsacs, post: 1224416, member: 652"] Just agree to disagree and its over. TerryD is a nice guy who doesn't post anything negative about other schools. We all know his position is that of William Wallace towards the English. He and significant portion of the ND alumni will never support anything but Independence for ND football. ND football is now a semi-independent. They aren't officially a member of any conference, but 5/12's of their schedule is controlled by a conference. ND's administration is more progressive than its traditional fanbase. Just like social issues in this country change over time I am sure ND's independence will change. My cousin went to ND, my uncle went to ND. My cousin doesn't care about independence he cares about winning games, my uncle cares more about it. As the new generations of ND students see ACC games annually it will change the future alumni. ND's annual games that can't go away are USC, Navy, Stanford. If ND can get rid of Michigan from their schedule which angered my family because they loved to hate UM then change can happen over time. [/QUOTE]
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