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[QUOTE="sabach, post: 1224464, member: 866"]
The fact of the matter is that ND has complete unfettered discretion over 7 of its games per year and SU has the same over 4 of its games per year.  That does not make SU independent.  ND is independent in terms of not being part of conference standings, not being eligible for a conference championship and not playing conference games (i.e the 5 ACC games they play do not count for the ACC schools in their conference record). Because of this, ND may be at a competitive disadvantage in years it finishes 11-1 and does not have a CCG to finish its resume on.  [B]For this reason Terry D is correct.  [/B]However, because ND allows the ACC to dictate who and when they play 5 games per year, this independence is qualified.  [B]For this reason Neil is correct.  [/B]For my money, I hope ND never joins the ACC.  I do not want to see the two football schools I root for being in the same conference.  I hate when SU plays ND.  One of them has to lose.
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