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Message: [QUOTE="TheCusian, post: 1224566, member: 2585"] Absolutely. They have a right to do what they want. I only care that they be included in the ACC for the perceived strength of the conference. We get dinged for being a weak P5 (even though there are very good arguments that we are not the worst) - a full member addition of ND would help. ND would get the chance to be conference champ (and all of the extra oomph that gets with the committee, stated or not) - and the rest of the schools benefit perception wise. Right now, when people talk ACC conference - they don't include ND in that discussion. I think this hurts the perception of the league - despite the 5 game agreement. I also am hopelessly curious as to why independence is this mythical fairy god mother for ND's success or perception - or whatever is gained from being a "national program". [/QUOTE]