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[QUOTE="omniorange, post: 1224764, member: 636"]
I don't mind the "longing", that's anyone's prerogative.

It's the Don Quixote type not recognizing the reality that is, that annoys me, even with Terry.  But I probably came on too strong in this thread.  After all, they have only had this football season to get used to the new reality.

Still, whether they will admit to it or not, for the majority of ND fans who feel like Terry (not Terry himself who has shown himself to be a great poster with a lot of respect for the traditions of others for over a decade) "football independence" is just a way of saying we are better than you.  Duh?!  Anyone who doesn't know the Irish football brand is better than maybe all but one (Alabama), is delusional as well.  And it has nothing whatsoever to do with being independent.  It's about winning.

The rest is either Terry's romantic idealism or just a way to say "We are better than you", which the majority fall into as evidenced by how in the age of rabbit ears and the early days of cable they flaunted the NBC contract and all that entailed ($$$ more than any other single team, national TV coverage for every game, etc) in other fans faces.

While I once thought ND would join a conference fully for football, a year or so ago, I finally came to the conclusion that they will not.  And that is fine with me as well.

Who knows, when the GOR comes up for renewal, Terry may get his wish and the Irish will leave the ACC and go indy for all their sports.

But until that time, the reality is, they are semi-independent for football.  And that is special too.  But apparently, not special enough for many Irish fans.

Cheers,
Neil
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