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Message: [QUOTE="CuseOnly, post: 1866155, member: 2804"] I am saying that plenty of coaches have gone for it on 4th down since the forward pass was allowed in 1906. That is a huge sample size. So in 110 years there was nothing learned from all those attempts...got it. Nothing was tested, tried or thought out in all that time...OK. I think maybe most folks analyzing it are over-thinking it just like you are and considering too many variables. Worrying about whether the QB had Nike shoes as opposed to Adidas might make a difference too. Or whether tighty whiteys or boxers were worn by the QB and RB and whether or not that may restrict throwing motion and influence the results. [/QUOTE]