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Message: [QUOTE="jncuse, post: 2507321, member: 1969"] In summary - I guess we will never fully agree on the eye test. I am not fully against it, just afraid of bias. - Pro numbers or not, we all have issues with the conference RPI. There is only one situation in which I like the concept of the "eye test". And that is in assessing schools like Loyola and determining if they are good enough. Because data cannot effectively compare them. My concern is the "eye test" will benefit the 7-11 or 8-10 P5 school. But for P5+BE schools if you can't separate yourself from the bubble, too bad you had plenty of chances. If we didn't use RPI, I am perfectly using numbers and analysis of that data to pick those teams, with a bit of subjectivity but hardly the emphasis. [/QUOTE]