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Message: [QUOTE="Millhouse, post: 4439016, member: 78"] this year they beat virginia and uconn and louisville and they lost to them in 2005 but those apparently don't count i just don't care about the difference between 38-14 and 38-3. it was 38-7 for 57 minutes in 05. patterson wasn't bad against fsu. shrader was terrible. i think shrader is awful at throwing the ball and I give the coaches credit for getting anything out of him in the passing game. FSU is going to roll everyone the rest of the way unless you're great, you're going to have bad days similar to bad days in really bad seasons. 59-0 was as bad as it gets [/QUOTE]