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Message: [QUOTE="CIL, post: 1222712, member: 22"] We have sucked for 15 years because our talent level has sucked. This is off the top of my head, but we have had Nassib, Carter, and Williams drafted as skill guys in the last 10 years. None higher than the 4th round. That is abysmal. The reason I used Clemson and Okie St is that those are two historically very good offensive teams suffering from poor QB play and talent drain. As for your study, I still don't undertand your study. Is it just Syracuse and their opponents, or just Syracuse? My guess is we sucked run or pass. Why not open the study to 10 teams with different offenses. Are games that out of hand after the first quarter that teams are killing the clock come 15 minutes left in q2? [/QUOTE]