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Message: [QUOTE="Chip, post: 1157428, member: 19"] I know this is all related, but the biggest thing I recall about that 2012 team was 3rd down. 3rd and long, 3rd and medium, 3rd and short, didn't matter. We faced 3rd down quite a bit and seemed to always convert. % had to be off the charts compared to other seasons. Got to the point where I never worried if we didn't move the ball on 1st or 2nd. Can't remember feeling like that since maybe McNabb when I figured if nothing's there he'll just either figure out a way to run for it or run around long enough for someone to get open. Whatever definition we're using for playmaker, it wasn't the speed of those WRs. It was their understanding of the position and the offense. Especially Lemon. Some guys just have a knack, and he did. Credit Hackett and Marrone for always moving him around too. [/QUOTE]