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Message: [QUOTE="Alsacs, post: 2740904, member: 652"] 5 Super Titles this Era doesn’t make him the Pats daddy regardless of the losses. Eli made the Manningham throw in the second one but he wasn’t why they won. The Pats only scored 14 points and 17 points. That was the Giants D. Those 2 SBs are the Pats lowest scoring SBs and why they lost. The Pats have played 8 50/50 SBs and won 5 of them. The 07 loss was tough but honestly the 2011 team wasn’t that good. It was a product of a bad AFC. They beat Tim Tebow in the divisional round and barely beat the Ravens in the AFC title game. Julian Edelman was the teams nickel CB. Giants were playing better than the Pats by the SB time. More impressive in the playoffs no doubt. 07 was the one that hurt. [/QUOTE]