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Message: [QUOTE="Dick_in_MI, post: 3907763, member: 225"] I don't think we are really that far apart. We just have different ideas of what constitutes "success" at the P5 level in a position where Dino has made between $10M and $20M and achieved a .400 winning percentage. It's not the Missouri Valley conference nor the MAC. Dino himself set the expectation of "consistently good instead of occasionally great" and I believe it is fair to hold him to that, both based on his five year tenure as well as going forward. When all is said and done, it is the offseason and as such all we have to occupy us right now is babbling about past stuff like this. It's not like SU is going to lose the hardcore folks like us, so we might as well yak about Dino, OL's, QB's,WRs, etc. until we have something more concrete to discuss. [/QUOTE]