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[QUOTE="TheCusian, post: 3908401, member: 2585"]
I'm not trying to snow you lol. I'm trying to help you get past the wins and losses as equal thing. Seasons are not equal strength. If we played all FCS teams one year and all SEC teams the next, our record would be 12-0 and 2-10 (if we're lucky). The same team! We gotta retain a 12-0 coach and fire the guy with 2 wins!

Wake Forest is not some great juggernaut first off. The should prob respect us every year, just like us with them. The point is the 2018 team was really good and the 2019 was bad. One year we're a good win for Clemson the next year we hurt their resume.

If you've read anything I've written in the last 3 months you know I'm not dodging the truth about 2019. Easiest schedule Dino has played and 5 wins was a joke of a result coming off of 10 the year before. I've also maintained that 2020 is complicated. It might be indicative of a complete collapse like it signaled with Gerg's 1-10 - but who knows given all the other footnotes and asterisks for that weird season.

Conference money and stability, yes. And to compete. If we want to do that we'd better be clear eyed about where we are and how far we are from the goal. That's why you look at SoS, etc. It's clarifying and I'm trying to help you not be snowed by gulping down w/l record as the best indicator of quality. It's not.
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