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Message: [QUOTE="FireballPhil, post: 5290978, member: 553"] again... as you said, [B]the players[/B], who analytics said were high IQ players, are not what they were perceived to be. How do you expect a coaching staff to be able to win with the collection of players we have? Do you honestly believe Coach K could come in here and win a championship with this group? Rick Patino? Name your best coach, and ask if he could really succeed with this team. Red deserves a ton of crap for believing to much in the analytics, although he among with a ton of other people, including some on this board, pressured the school to hire someone for that role, just so a team like this wouldn't be put together. It failed miserably. All I am saying is once the team was signed, he has to deal with what hand he dealt himself. This year that hand sucks. There is a lot more that went into this than just coaching. [/QUOTE]