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Message: [QUOTE="javadoc, post: 120739, member: 338"] This whole post should be tacked to the top of the board and displayed in 24-point bold font. Only part you left out is about the up-and-coming guys, the ones who really do have it together and who might consider the job as a stepping-stone, who come through the door and see the facilities and think, "How the hell am I going to persuade kids to come here?" and catch the next plane out of town. It's tough enough having to overcome a decade of badness when selling the program; add to that having to explain away the facilities and it becomes a "why bother" decision. [/QUOTE]