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Message: [QUOTE="Forza Azzurri, post: 2816518, member: 1452"] That is not true. Depends where you live and what the restaurants are like. My favorite little local Italian place flies its ingredients in weekly. The Cacio e Pepe or Bucatini all'Amatriciana (sorry, typo) is worth every penny...The mozz make me think I'm in Puglia or Campania... There are some absolutely fabulous Italian restaurants in the city... Gravy just means that either your ancestry is southern italian or you grew up surrounded by them... Up north, it is sauce... One other thing...I will completely concede that there are large swaths of the country where I would never consider going to an Italian restaurant unless it was a really special circumstance - like an Italian-born and educated chef who just really happened to love Des Moines or Toledo... [/QUOTE]