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Message: [QUOTE="Alsacs, post: 1368954, member: 652"] I deal with NC State fans here in Charlotte they don't think Doeren is great at recruiting. He is in line with how O'Brien did and the school always has brought in talent they just screw up deploying it smartly. I am not underrating the staff I am just not overrating mediocrity. This staff has done okay on recruiting not great. Acosta/Daoust have done really well, but overall we need more kids than half of our kids with legit ACC offers/peer schools offers for me to stay they are great. Scott Shafer's last year just put him on notice. I want him to win and stay I just think this year is make it or good bye. [/QUOTE]