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[QUOTE="TheCusian, post: 1410356, member: 2585"]
Just to reinforce what's been said before your post:

1. Hiring McDonald was a huge mistake, Shafer owns that.
2. The offense in 2013 was going to be a mess no matter who the QB was.
3. When Marrone left and took the entire offensive staff except Moore, things went from bad to bleak.
4. When he left he left at the worst time on the recruiting calendar. We lost a stud RB and QB.

Now onto your points:

1. Marrone did dig us out of a hole. The culture change was real. Keeping Shafer on DID ensure that it continue. You could say it got better.
2. Marrone's offense didn't culminate in 2012 in a straight line. In fact, things were pretty bad in 2011 offensively. People were killing Marrone/Hackett around here. Hackett stumbled onto something different in 2012. And even that flopped around till Jerome Smith's emergence halfway through the year.
3. Writing Lesters obit right now is foolish. You haven't seen a snap of his offense run in a game situation.
4. Talk all you want.

I've just been pushing back on the notion that the program was in tip-top shape when Shafer took over. The only constant for the last 6 years has been good-very good defense. That's it.
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