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Message: [QUOTE="Orangezoo, post: 768923, member: 237"] i think that 6-6 would be a successful season. With now the loss of lyn, the fact that even with shafer being part of the marrone staff we are still a team in transition; expecting 7-5 or 8-4 is a real stretch. i stayed out of the meltdown/ anger that erupted when marrone left but seeing what i have so far its frustrating to have to somewhat hit the restart button again. We were far from a bcs team and just starting to build so momentum.. then he leaves and takes hackett with him.. just ouch. Five games in, with our 2nd qb starter playing his first decent opponent and the team still not having an identity- i am struggling to stay optomistic. Hopefully it was mainly clemson more than us and we can hit the road and beat nit state and go from there.. [/QUOTE]