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Message: [QUOTE="GoSU96, post: 463626, member: 114"] Of course there's an argument. The one thing there is no argument over is that this offense is much, much, much, much, much better. This year 30 pts per game, ranked 19th in total offense (as of this morning), 2001, ranked 93rd in total offense. Defense, this year ranked 44th, 2001, 46th. This years run defense was better than 2001. 2001 the defense was better on pass defense, generating turnovers, and scoring defense, and that is all in large part because of Freeney. [/QUOTE]