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Message: [QUOTE="elimunelson, post: 1432009, member: 615"] Precisely. Marrone had this team on the upswing. We were a dangerous team at the end of 2013. Any reasonable person would consider us back on the upswing. The job wasn't done but SS inherited something 100x better than the pile of crap DM inherited. Based on all of that, certainly Shafer is coaching for his job this year. I'm not sure how anyone could see it differently. I have no line in the sand number either. If we start off 5-1 and lose the remainder of games badly (shades of 93) vs start 1-5 and then win 4 of 6 to end the season (in ACC Play) those two things to me would look differently to me in terms of retaining SS. Let's just hope we play competitive football, get to a bowl game and this becomes moot. Syracuse is in a big boy league now so the expectations from my end are not the glory days of 88-98. But certainly a winning record yearly is achievable considering what our peers have done recently. [/QUOTE]