One problem with all this

[cuseguy]

By killing Rutgers and UConn, you essentially kill interest in college football in the NY Metro area outside of the people who only care about the "big game." And as we all know, there's already minimal interest in college football there already. Just sayin. I'm all for getting a leg up on those schools in terms of recruiting and money, but it was nice to see a little buzz in the northeast over the last five years or so as those programs became competitive. I guess we can't have it both ways, can we?

 

[Scooch]

Not at all, neither Rutgers nor UConn are the most favorite teams of college football fans in the NY market. Those would be Penn State and Notre Dame.

 

[IthacaMatt]

By killing Rutgers and UConn, you essentially kill interest in college football in the NY Metro area outside of the people who only care about the "big game." And as we all know, there's already minimal interest in college football there already. Just sayin. I'm all for getting a leg up on those schools in terms of recruiting and money, but it was nice to see a little buzz in the northeast over the last five years or so as those programs became competitive. I guess we can't have it both ways, can we?

Notre Dame and Penn State have been #1 and #2 in the NYC market for a long time.

 

[PhatOrange]

By killing Rutgers and UConn, you essentially kill interest in college football in the NY Metro area outside of the people who only care about the "big game." And as we all know, there's already minimal interest in college football there already. Just sayin. I'm all for getting a leg up on those schools in terms of recruiting and money, but it was nice to see a little buzz in the northeast over the last five years or so as those programs became competitive. I guess we can't have it both ways, can we?

what did the ny metro do prior to 10 years ago then when uconn was 1AA and rutgers was rutgers?

interest in college football for nyc metro is not being killed. it's the same as it ever was.

 

[Chip]

By killing Rutgers and UConn, you essentially kill interest in college football in the NY Metro area outside of the people who only care about the "big game." And as we all know, there's already minimal interest in college football there already. Just sayin. I'm all for getting a leg up on those schools in terms of recruiting and money, but it was nice to see a little buzz in the northeast over the last five years or so as those programs became competitive. I guess we can't have it both ways, can we?

Was there really a northeast buzz in NYC because of Rutgers and UConn football? (I know there wasn't for SU football, I get that). Other than the most famous Thursday night in Rutgers football history, what impact was there in the city outside of big time college football?

I continue to maintain that there is not enough talent to go around for SU, RU, UConn to be competitive football teams at the same time. It's been hard enough for SU, Pitt, and BC to be competitive at the same time. I'll take my chances with the latter. Enough separation, but not too much.

And in an unrelated thought, I was just awarded a board trophy for All Big East. Can that be changed to All ACC? Otherwise, that trophy will probably be used to wipe a deuce later.

 

[690West]

Was there really a northeast buzz in NYC because of Rutgers and UConn football? l

No, no there wasn't

 

[FAL]

Notre Dame and Penn State have been #1 and #2 in the NYC market for a long time.

Outside chance SU moves up a little as PSU takes the inevitable slide thanks to the Sandusky/Paterno Horror Show?

 

[Scooch]

Outside chance SU moves up a little as PSU takes the inevitable slide thanks to the Sandusky/Paterno Horror Show?

None.

 

[Faegan]

None.

I would take issue with that... I think we can move up SOME in terms of how we are perceived on the college football landscape. At least to where we were during the McNabb years.

 

[Orangemen]

UConn football is a non-entity, and Rutgers is Rutgers.

That, in a nutshell, is why we are where we are, and they are where they are.

 

[cuseguy]

what did the ny metro do prior to 10 years ago then when uconn was 1AA and rutgers was rutgers?

interest in college football for nyc metro is not being killed. it's the same as it ever was.

Ten years ago there was zero interest in UConn football. Now, when UConn is at least respectable, there's a lot more interest. Ten years ago, people didn't put the letter R on the back of their cars in Jersey. That has died down somewhat after interest was pretty high 3-4 years ago, but you still see a lot of cars with the R.

 

[cuseguy]

UConn football is a non-entity, and Rutgers is Rutgers.

That, in a nutshell, is why we are where we are, and they are where they are.

I just wish we could beat that team that is a non-entity. That other school from Jersey, too.

 

[cuseguy]

No, no there wasn't

How would you know?

 

[cuseguy]

Was there really a northeast buzz in NYC because of Rutgers and UConn football? (I know there wasn't for SU football, I get that). Other than the most famous Thursday night in Rutgers football history, what impact was there in the city outside of big time college football?

I continue to maintain that there is not enough talent to go around for SU, RU, UConn to be competitive football teams at the same time. It's been hard enough for SU, Pitt, and BC to be competitive at the same time. I'll take my chances with the latter. Enough separation, but not too much.

And in an unrelated thought, I was just awarded a board trophy for All Big East. Can that be changed to All ACC? Otherwise, that trophy will probably be used to wipe a deuce later.

So true. There isn't enough talent for all those schools. Hopefully this helps SU because we were getting outrecruited, for the most part, by all of them.

 

[Orangemen]

I just wish we could beat that team that is a non-entity. That other school from Jersey, too.

We're talking college football, right? That means history trumps all else.

We could play PSU 5 times in the next 5 years, and probably beat them every time, would you say we'd passed them in significance to college football after that?

We've had some bad times, no doubt, but there's about 60+ years of history prior to that that still matters.

If there's anything we've learned in realignment, it's that history matters a lot.

The media and young fans haven't seemed to wrap their heads around it, but it matters. Only one conference has added any teams without history. It's not a coincidence that that conference is also the one currently on the ropes.

 

[cuseguy]

We're talking college football, right? That means history trumps all else.

We could play PSU 5 times in the next 5 years, and probably beat them every time, would you say we'd passed them in significance to college football after that?

We've had some bad times, no doubt, but there's about 60+ years of history prior to that that still matters.

If there's anything we've learned in realignment, it's that history matters a lot.

The media and young fans haven't seemed to wrap their heads around it, but it matters. Only one conference has added any teams without history. It's not a coincidence that that conference is also the one currently on the ropes.

I agree with the history part. It means a lot to me. But, like you said, it doesn't mean a lot to the media and young fans, and that, unfortunately, is what people follow.

 

[Orangemen]

I agree with the history part. It means a lot to me. But, like you said, it doesn't mean a lot to the media and young fans, and that, unfortunately, is what people follow.

People may follow it, but it's not having any material effect on what is playing out in realignment.

 

[Scooch]

I would take issue with that... I think we can move up SOME in terms of how we are perceived on the college football landscape. At least to where we were during the McNabb years.

I took "moving up" to mean passing ND and PSU into the top 2. That won't happen.

SU was the 3rd most-favorite team in the northeast for some years in the 90s. We can do that again, for sure.

 

[Alsacs]

and Rutgers. The faster they die the quicker we get better NJ and NYC athletes.

 

[Chip]

So true. There isn't enough talent for all those schools. Hopefully this helps SU because we were getting outrecruited, for the most part, by all of them.

I'm not so sure UConn has outrecruited us recently. Certainly outplayed us recently. But our younger classes that aren't up to speed yet were ranked higher on both sites. So that worm was likely going to turn.

Rutgers had certainly outrecruited us on paper. Hasn't translated to the field for them under Marrone. And who knows if they could have continued that momentum under Flood. Schiano was a big part of that.

All signs point to us trending up and them trending down. As much fun as their fans had at our expense during our down cycle, I don't feel bad. To be honest, I just don't much care.

 

[PhatOrange]

Ten years ago there was zero interest in UConn football. Now, when UConn is at least respectable, there's a lot more interest. Ten years ago, people didn't put the letter R on the back of their cars in Jersey. That has died down somewhat after interest was pretty high 3-4 years ago, but you still see a lot of cars with the R.

That's great and as such those fans will or should still root for their teams. But you said kill interest in the Northeast. Not quite.

 

[690West]

How would you know?

I don't know. Just makin it up as I go. Isn't that what we all do here? Lol

 

[Noexcuse]

Ten years ago there was zero interest in UConn football. Now, when UConn is at least respectable, there's a lot more interest. Ten years ago, people didn't put the letter R on the back of their cars in Jersey. That has died down somewhat after interest was pretty high 3-4 years ago, but you still see a lot of cars with the R.

 

[retro44]

Ten years ago there was zero interest in UConn football. Now, when UConn is at least respectable, there's a lot more interest. Ten years ago, people didn't put the letter R on the back of their cars in Jersey. That has died down somewhat after interest was pretty high 3-4 years ago, but you still see a lot of cars with the R.

now the R'S stand for repoe's.

 

[SUATO92]

By killing Rutgers and UConn, you essentially kill interest in college football in the NY Metro area outside of the people who only care about the "big game." And as we all know, there's already minimal interest in college football there already. Just sayin. I'm all for getting a leg up on those schools in terms of recruiting and money, but it was nice to see a little buzz in the northeast over the last five years or so as those programs became competitive. I guess we can't have it both ways, can we?

Posts like this and the subsequent responses to the replies make me feel like I must live in an alternate universe than the one cuseguy lives in. We get it you REALLY like uconn and Rutgers but please spare us the hyperbole. If Rutgers and uconn have any value they will be picked up by someone. Reality, as of now, tells a different story.