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Message: [QUOTE="sufandu, post: 1894408, member: 874"] I get all that, I used to be a personal trainer. You also have to factor in different body types: ectomorph, mesomorph, or endomorph. Basketball players tend to be ectomorphs. My point was that we can't assume a tall guy will fill out and be as big as the guys that are naturally big without having to add the weight. What I wonder is how much of a difference there is between a guy that has a natural set point in the 300+ range versus a guy that has to work to add 40 lbs to get there. In my experience, the guys with the higher set point tend to be more powerful. I'm guessing we know we're not going to beat out the factories for the naturally big guys that have the requisite athleticism, so we're doing the next best thing, getting athletic guys that we hope will fill out their frame and retain the athleticism. [/QUOTE]