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Message: [QUOTE="kcsu, post: 1523714, member: 528"] Go i love most of your post and i know that you bleed orange. My point on the your chart was that for 4 years Doug was 94 97 90 which was pretty poor. I truly believe that during the first 4 years Shafers D carried him. Anyone who met and spent time with Doug would tell you that he was thin skinned . I think that he did a good job turning the program around and i give him a ton of credit for that. I dont think that he could recruit very well and the way he left the program wasnt professional. [/QUOTE]