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Message: [QUOTE="SoBeCuse, post: 2484687, member: 796"] I think it is both. I don’t think anybody has denigrated it. It WAS improbable. 10 seeds don’t go to the F4. The seed is a representation of your body of work which was mediocre and has been mediocre. It is what it is. For sure the win was awesome. It made for a great end of the season and some momentum in March. But, have we been mediocre? Yes. If I honestly look at that team and the program in the past 3.5 years; I think “meh.” Not sure if that is too kind or not. Boeheim has also contradicted himself on that issue. Either in the Albany offseason presser or the Wildhack/JB one immediately following the Hopkins leaving debacle (the one to stave off the circling buzzards); he lamented how difficult it is to make the tournament these days. He talked about how great those seasons were that UVA and MSU had and how they shouldn’t be forgotten because of an upset. It goes both ways. [/QUOTE]