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Message: [QUOTE="Hoo's That, post: 1923537, member: 3609"] ^^This and ^^This. They have always had a poor defense, but they were able to score a lot of points to make up for it. Since Kelly left they have not had a good QB, depending on JCs and xfers rather than a recruit. The surprising thing is that Helfrich was the OC under Kelly. The team that was in the championship game was all Kelly's recruits. They are very, very angry up there. I'd be very surprised if they haven't had several servers melt down into molten piles of silicon at eDuck HQ. They really didn't like how close we played them and now that they've been doing some serious losing ... [/QUOTE]