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Message: [QUOTE="MSOrange, post: 1209838, member: 630"] And sure enough they lost. I tend to agree with you. Al Groh didn't leave the program in a great place but Virginia has had some good success under George Welsh and even Groh had some good years. It doesn't seem like a place that''s impossible to win at. I would have expected better than 5-7 at this point. But apparently his buyout would have cost more than $5 million minus whatever income London would earn from a new job - so maybe that played into it. [/QUOTE]