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Message: [QUOTE="two3zone, post: 1666362, member: 3651"] I don't want to play the game of luck and bad luck because it works both ways, Carmelo came here and won us one, we don't win without him. He very well could have gone straight to the NBA like MANY of his peers did. We could have 2 titles if it wasn't for Keith Smart, but we don't. We could have 6 final fours but we don't. We could play the woulda coulda shoulda game all day for both ends of the argument but there is no point to, it is what it is, we have 4 FF appearances in JBs tenure, Uconn has 4 titles 16 years, less than half the time of JBs tenure, we can't rack everything up as luck. [/QUOTE]