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[QUOTE="MCC, post: 305955, member: 145"]
There's clearly a lot to debate here: I'm not sure I'd call Magic a defensive liability; he led the league in steals two years in a row and was in the top ten a few other years. I can't think of any guards who would be able to post him up, whereas any big guard could have posted Stockton. JS was was elite with the thefts though. Magic was also the ultimate orchestrator of the fast break, and I can't think of a much easier way to score points, so I'd take him over JS. I think it's hard to say who's better in the half court, what with JS's success with Malone in the pick and roll. In sum I'd keep Magic at point.
 
RE: Kareem v. Russell: Kareem was an elite defender as well; led the league in blocks 4x and was 1st team all-D 5x, 2nd team 6x. Very agile as well, was long rather than wide, the antithesis of the plodding center. In his prime he was as close to a gazelle as you'll get with someone 7'2". Also an excellent passer averaging 4 - 5 assists per game for the first half of his career - very good for a volume shooter and one of the league's top scorers. I'd still take Kareem at the 5.
 
Anyway, good debate here with some intriguing perspectives that surely arise from our different perspectives on who you need to get the W.
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