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just a heads up-if every american bought 1 american made garment a year it would add 9 billion to the us economy:)

there a re plenty of american made jeans if your getting some to give this holiday season-i just bought 2 pair for myself thru allamericanclothing.com-- they are awsome in build and materials- and they dont cost anymore than brand names-under 50bucks-

i also replaced my charfart offshore coats with some from unionlabel.com-also very well made and great price

so this holiday season give a gift to your nation along with your family and friends
 
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America…
America…
America, F*** YEAH!
Coming again, to save the mother f****** day yeah,
America, F*** YEAH!
Freedom is the only way yeah,
Terrorist your game is through cause now you have to answer to,
America, F*** YEAH!
So l*** my butt, and s*** on my balls,
America, F*** YEAH!
What you going to do when we come for you now,
it’s the dream that we all share; it’s the hope for tomorrow!
 
i guess your against people earning a living-

bac 2 and proud of it

Yes, because I'm non-union and don't make a living. get off your union high-horse.
 
Yes, because I'm non-union and don't make a living. get off your union high-horse.

So the guy who responded to your "quip" about unions is on a high-horse? Interesting take on the conversation.
 
NBC I think said that the average American family spends something like $7#0 on Xmas gifts. They stated if we spent $64 of that amount un made in USA it would create 200,00 jobs. Some of the we buy from cvhina and the old third woprd countries is not cheap either. Nike, UnderArmour l, Columbia,
 
We could really turn this into a pretty big economic debate on what is the impact of buying products not made in America. I think that would be better suited for the OT board though.
 
As it turns out, I'm in contract manufacturing so I keep a close eye on what is going on with that field. After reading these posts, it's pretty clear that most people have no real concept of just how much stuff is NOT made here. I wrote a paper on this very topic 7 years ago. It was bad then and it is much worse now. My challenge to anyone would be to make a list of 10 non related items and then try to find them as a US manufactured version. If you find 2 of 10, it'll be amazing. If I recall, we had lost close to 5 million manufacturing jobs from 1980-2003. I'm sure it is double that by now.

We have not only lost the jobs, we have lost the knowledge and skills that we had accrued over several decades. It takes almost 20years to train and staff a country to be highly skilled in manufacturing and it will take us that long, too. Most of the skilled, knowledgeable workers are either retired or closing in on it. Our economy is unhealthy because we have nearly lost the middle class, and we have lost the middle class because we have lost manufacturing.
 
As it turns out, I'm in contract manufacturing so I keep a close eye on what is going on with that field. After reading these posts, it's pretty clear that most people have no real concept of just how much stuff is NOT made here. I wrote a paper on this very topic 7 years ago. It was bad then and it is much worse now. My challenge to anyone would be to make a list of 10 non related items and then try to find them as a US manufactured version. If you find 2 of 10, it'll be amazing. If I recall, we had lost close to 5 million manufacturing jobs from 1980-2003. I'm sure it is double that by now.

We have not only lost the jobs, we have lost the knowledge and skills that we had accrued over several decades. It takes almost 20years to train and staff a country to be highly skilled in manufacturing and it will take us that long, too. Most of the skilled, knowledgeable workers are either retired or closing in on it. Our economy is unhealthy because we have nearly lost the middle class, and we have lost the middle class because we have lost manufacturing.

There's a great article in The Atlantic right now about Bob Lutz, the car guy, and how he thinks MBAs ruined the American economy, and that we would do better if we put engineers in charge. Engineers used to be more equals, if not superiors in American corporations, back when our #1 concern was making the best quality products we could. That era ended in the 70s, in Lutz's opinion, and corresponded with the rise of MBAs and the introduction of serious number crunching into corporate America.

It's that thinking that led to leveraged buy-outs and buying companies to break them apart to make money. Of course, this kind of number crunching has also delivered true value in terms of how efficient supply chains and logistics are today. It's mind boggling, really, what companies accomplish in that regard.

But finance's role in the economy has been growing ever since, and it's gotten to the point that financial services - and not products - are the heart of what we produce as a nation. It's false wealth, driven by over-reliance on financial trickery to show profit and hide loss, and manipulate the swings in markets, rather than looking to make something outstanding. One of the few "modern" companies Lutz looks up to is Apple, because they just make an outstanding product, with a relentless focus on giving the customer the best possible experience, not just an "ok" one, with a product that's good enough, cheap enough, bland enough.

Very good read. Sorry not to provide a link, but those of you who are interested know how to type "The Atlantic" into google or your browser window.
 
I got an idea. How about we talk about ing sports in the sports sections, and we can talk about this in the off topic. This is my biggest peeve with sports sites. There is clearly an off topic area. I come to this board to talk about freakin sports, I don't come here to see arm chair politics discussed. So can we please keep the two separate?
 
How about you pump the brakes, some? The title clearly stated it was off topic. Although it is best located in the appropriate forum, if you didn't want to read it, you didn't have to. Obviously, you felt you needed to find something to complain about. Bravo.

Thanks, Matt. I'll check that out. Nice quality response from you...thanks.
 
How about you pump the brakes, some? The title clearly stated it was off topic. Although it is best located in the appropriate forum, if you didn't want to read it, you didn't have to. Obviously, you felt you needed to find something to complain about. Bravo.

Thanks, Matt. I'll check that out. Nice quality response from you...thanks.

I posted because it's an ongoing problem, even in non OT threads. Constantly seeing snide remarks about politics, Tristan is the worst ing offender, it's annoying.
 
Ummmmmmm.....

Pretty sure the only things that the US manufactures anymore are porn and software.

So....
 
I posted because it's an ongoing problem, even in non OT threads. Constantly seeing snide remarks about politics, Tristan is the worst ******* offender, it's annoying.
Spoken like a typical lib. ;)
 
Spoken like a typical lib. ;)

See, it's bullshit like this. I don't ing give a about any of this, I come here to talk about Syracuse ing sports, not ing talk about any of my own personal beliefs or ing discuss that is basically proven to lead to pointless and ing stupid arguments on the internet. Politics have no god damn place in sports.
 
See, it's bullshit like this. I don't ******* give a **** about any of this, I come here to talk about Syracuse ******* sports, not ******* talk about any of my own personal beliefs or ******* discuss **** that is basically proven to lead to pointless and ******* stupid arguments on the internet. Politics have no god damn place in sports.
I was poking fun at Tristan. I thought the wink emoticon made that obvious. Sorry to rile you up.
 
My point is simply this: you put yourself in this thread BY CHOICE. And YOU are responsible for keeping this part of it alive. If you wanted to talk sports, obviously...very obviously, this is not the thread.
 
Ummmmmmm.....

Pretty sure the only things that the US manufactures anymore are porn and software.

So....

How could you forget about beer, (alcohol) It's in your signature.:)
 

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