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Message: [QUOTE="BuffOrange, post: 375367, member: 1643"] Wow. Sorry Mrs. Belichick. No earthly idea how I ever implied "he never made the playoffs in Cleveland and coached the Ravens". All I was saying was that when you look at the Browns/Ravens from 91-98, '94 sure looks like more of an outlier than '95 (and the '96 team did have a lot of the same personnel as 95, Lol @ "not close to the same"). Thanks for the history lesson though. Maybe next you can enlighten us on how Don Shula never actually coached the Indianapolis Colts, contrary to popular belief. BB's record with that NE QB formally coached by Parcells was 5-13 btw. [/QUOTE]