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Message: [QUOTE="KaiserUEO, post: 1042055, member: 272"] i dont believe pitchers should win the MVP and i certainly dont believe we have the time to engage in that discussion here. i know ellsbury finished 2nd, so i guess hes the de facto winner. personally, i think Miggy should be coming off his 3rd straight MVP. as for Ellsbury, hes a much better player than i ever gave him credit for. i still think he plays a step or 2 too shallow, either that or hes getting just a slight bad break on the ball. hopefully, as he gets used to the Stadium, that changes. [/QUOTE]