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Message: [QUOTE="Knicks411, post: 2039541, member: 767"] The odd thing is, I watch Rose a lot, and I have to say, i am pretty surprised at the burst/quickness he still shows on a somewhat regular basis. There's more of that left in him than i thought. That being said, the injuries have clearly brought him down multiple notches and I'm not a fan of him being on the Knicks at all. I just thought he would look more "broken down" when they got him, if that makes any sense. Hey, nash was an MVP, and he just got old, I don't think he belongs in this conversation. Penny is probably the absolute best example of this though. Grant Hill is another. Brandon Roy. [/QUOTE]