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Message: [QUOTE="orangehomer, post: 1107334, member: 151"] i don't have a problem with Doug on any level really, I appreciate what he did here. he decided to leave and I was ok with that. when I watch the bills I just see the same problems as we had, bad penalties, bad turnovers, and curious calls on offense. in college you can get away with a bit more, but in the nfl you just can't win if you are negative in penalties and turnovers. I think he is a good coach, and probably has a lot to offer on a pro staff, I just don't think he is meant to be a head guy at either the pro or college level. I also disagree that in the nfl you need to adhere to the 3-4 year minimum for a guy to implement a "system". roster turnover in college is very slow compared to the nfl, I don't think you need longer than a year or 2 in the nfl to know if a head coach has a good plan or not. [/QUOTE]