OT: How Tom Allen built up Indiana Football

[orangepassion]

Good stuff.

How Tom Allen Invigorated a Dormant Indiana Program

For years, Hoosiers football was defined by sustained irrelevance. But its 2020 rise into the top 10 was no fluke.

www.si.com

 

[upperdeck]

if you watched the games last year though, it makes you wonder if it was a 1 yr thing.. they had no business wining the PSU game. so thats 5-3. they got dominated by Wisc and won with 200 yrs of offense. there is 4-4 and no one is talking about any of this.

they had a great yr in a messed up yr. do it 2-3 times and then its a thing.. we all know what one good yr can look like

 

[EuclidBred]

Hot Take:

Tom Allen & Indiana are what Scott Shafer & Syracuse could have been if we had state funding, Big Ten network money and P5 facilities/staff infrastructure.

 

[DoctorBombay]

if you watched the games last year though, it makes you wonder if it was a 1 yr thing.. they had no business wining the PSU game. so thats 5-3. they got dominated by Wisc and won with 200 yrs of offense. there is 4-4 and no one is talking about any of this.

they had a great yr in a messed up yr. do it 2-3 times and then its a thing.. we all know what one good yr can look like

Exactly.
My first thought reading that headline was “when did Indiana football get built up”?

 

[Dick_in_MI]

Hot Take:

Tom Allen & Indiana are what Scott Shafer & Syracuse could have been if we had state funding, Big Ten network money and P5 facilities/staff infrastructure.

Indiana athletics doesn't get any state funding. I am pretty sure that they don't get money from the university either. They do get B10 $$$.

 

[bevosu]

Being an Indiana guy and having that connection to the university appears to have been a plus for him and Indiana. Apparently, he's a good coach. Time will tell.

Shafer never had that connection to the locality and the university. Not sure he had it in him to be a good head coach? Money and boosters would have helped, something Allen has.

I wish we could find a coach who has orange blood and the coaching skills to want to rebuild our football team and would stick around. Allen looks like that for Indiana, but if he keeps winning and money offers tempt him he might jump ship as quickly as the baloney man? That seems to be how it works.

 

[EuclidBred]

Indiana athletics doesn't get any state funding. I am pretty sure that they don't get money from the university either. They do get B10 $$$.

Was not aware - I guess we know what happens when I (ass)ume as the flagship university they received state funding.

 

[Dick_in_MI]

Was not aware - I guess we know what happens when I (ass)ume as the flagship university they received state funding.

I guess it is not widely known. In addition to Indiana neither Purdue nor two other B10 schools (can't recall which ones) get state funding for athletics either. Although most big state schools do get funding, not all do.

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

Hot Take:

Tom Allen & Indiana are what Scott Shafer & Syracuse could have been if we had state funding, Big Ten network money and P5 facilities/staff infrastructure.

We could have had oil-nation-owning-PSG level funding and Shafer still would have been in over his head.

 

[EuclidBred]

We could have had oil-nation-owning-PSG level funding and Shafer still would have been in over his head.

Eh, agree to disagree. Just look at the coaching staff Shafer had. He was handcuffed by salary deficiencies compared to our peers. Not saying he was the answer (or that he wouldn't have gotten fired) but if you look at the career path and personalities, there are a ton of similarities between Shafer and Allen.

 

[djorange1989]

We could have had oil-nation-owning-PSG level funding and Shafer still would have been in over his head.

he did have that hot start in 2015. "we're 3-0! 3-0!" said over and over again with a crazed look in his eyes. shudder.

 

[SUDadx2]

Polish diamonds​

If Indiana isn’t getting NFL-ready, five-star talent, it can still develop the players it does get over their four—and, thanks to redshirting and the pandemic, potentially five—years on campus. Talk to Hoosier players and they will marvel at their improvement since arriving to the program.

Win the weight room in the offseason; win the game in the fall.