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Message: [QUOTE="FRANKIEFAN, post: 2668998, member: 6729"] Well you are cherry picking but I'll play along lets see how those guys were without the stars. Did Scottie join MJ playing baseball? No he was maybe the best player in the NBA when that happened. McHale was older than Bird (I think) and likely as banged up at the end hes still a very good player that last year post Larry. On the same token a very old Worthy could make a claim for best player on the early 90s Lakers after Magic's announcement. Cousy was older than Russell and was a star before Bill joined the C's does Bill get past Wilt every year without him? I mean I'm not going to use last year when he didn't have Kahwi against him I said its close hes better than a lot of guys who are in Springfield I just don't think a guy who only makes 2 all star games is a HOFer. Basketball is different though and hard to call I don't have strong feelings like I do in other sports. [/QUOTE]