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Message: [QUOTE="Cheriehoop, post: 2807044, member: 127"] Sorry but that wasn't my point, I just wasn't clear. How many times after even murderers are caught that some people will be absolutely shocked because the person was so nice to them, while others who had interactions are not surprised at all? Supposedly loving parents committing crimes or bullying their own children, spouses, siblings etc? Many people end up being enigmas - people who act unpredictably, are puzzling - good and bad. Being a bad person doesn't mean they aren't capable of some good -and visa versa. It's why many people who do bad things have defenders touting the good things they do. I probably didn't communicate what I meant very well. [/QUOTE]